Friday, 29 August 2008

How Would You Take A Snail to Constantinople?

Speaking of fun toys...

Google Books is fun to play with, whether you have serious research aims or merely a penchant for reading old books (such as the Travels of John Mandeville from the 14th Century (the original is not available to Canadian Googlers, only American)).
I tend to search for Istanbul/Constantinople quite often, for the simple pleasure of reading travel items and geographical/historical works written with a Medieval, Renaissance or Victorian flavour. The places they describe are vaguely familiar and yet mysterious at the same time, speaking as they do of a Turkey I've never seen: population much less dense, countryside much cleaner, evidence of Islam everywhere but the cities more cosmopolitan than they ever appear now.
Recently, my uncle over at Snail's Tales searched for both Constantinople and snails, and one of the results was Method in Almsgiving by Matthew Weston Moggridge, first published in 1882.
As Aydın says, the book has nothing to do with either Constantinople or snails, but features this statement on p. 97:

Patience and a little cold-cream are said to have taken a snail to Constantinople...


The author then suggests that if snails can thus be brought to Constantinople, that patience can also overcome other obstacles. An admirable statement to be sure.
But why should one wish to take a snail to Constantinople (and from where?)? And why should cream help the matter?
That is, where did this phrase originate? Who first said it and when?
Google was surprisingly unhelpful, but produced some fun results:

1. How many words can you anagram from Constantinople?

2. They Might Be Giants, who covered the Istanbul (Not Constantinople) song, also have a song called Snail Shell.

3. Google Books finds Constantinople During the Crimean War by Edmund Hornby and Emelia Bithynia Hornby, who describe a snail shell they found, and Three Years in Constantinople by Charles White, which includes the phrase "Saliankoz (snails) [in today's Turkish it should be salyangoz] are much in demand among Greeks and Armenians during Lent. At that season they are exhibited outside..." I've downloaded both books for future reading (another aspect of Google Books is that it's free! And so not covered under my book-buying ban :-))

Yet we are no closer to understanding the origins of the phrase. Does anyone have any suggestions?

No comments:

Books I'm Reading and Finished Books

  • Sandman: Dream Country by Neil Gaiman
  • The Return of the Shadow - Book 6 in the History of Middle Earth series by Christopher Tolkien and J R R Tolkien (reread)
  • ***Reading At Intervals***
  • Stories in Words by C S Lewis
  • Poison by Bridget Zinn
  • Medieval Comic Tales (Folio Society edition)
  • Moby Dick by Herman Melville
  • Lessons for a Sunday Father by Claire Calman
  • Shadow Show (Anthology in Honour of Ray Bradbury, including Neil Gaiman!)
  • Looking Backward by Edward Bellamy
  • The Pilgrim's Progress by John Bunyan
  • Warriors (anthology) edited by George R. R. Martin and G. Dozois (featuring a new Lord John story by Diana Gabaldon)
  • The Jerusalem Bible
  • ***Finished Books***
  • Acquainted With the Night by Rober Frost (read by Amanda Palmer) (here: http://amandapalmer.net/blog/20120510/)
  • The Great Gatsby by F. Scott Fitzgerald (reread)
  • Star Trek Book of Opposites (board book)
  • Alligator Baby by Robert Munsch
  • Causeries: l'Etat Civil du Comte de Monte Cristo by Alexandre Dumas (essay)
  • Le Comte de Monte-Cristo par Alexandre Dumas
  • About the B'nai Bagels by E. L. Konigsburg
  • Parragon's Encyclopedia of Animals a Family Reference Guide (skimmed)
  • Throwing Shadows by E. L. Konigsburg
  • The Devil on the Staircase by Joe Hill (short story)
  • Horns by Joe Hill
  • Altogether One at a Time by E. L. Konigsburg
  • Orders From Berlin by Simon Tolkien
  • The King of Diamonds by Simon Tolkien
  • Quick Fix by Linda Grimes (arc!)
  • Jack Absolute by C. C. Humphreys
  • The Lost Road - Book 5 in the History of Middle Earth series by Christopher Tolkien and J R R Tolkien (reread)
  • The Roots of Betrayal by James Forrester
  • Leaf by Niggle by J. R. R. Tolkien (short story) (reread)
  • The Lord of the Rings by J. R. R. Tolkien (reread)
  • Sandman: Doll's House by Neil Gaiman
  • secret beta read!
  • An Easter Walk by Zan Marie Steadham (reread)
  • Celtic Myths and Legends by Mike Dixon-Kennedy (reread) (skimmed)
  • Rainy Days with Bear by Maureen Hull
  • Down to a Sunless Sea by Neil Gaiman (short story) (http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2013/mar/22/down-sunless-sea-neil-gaiman-short-story)
  • Sandman: Prologues and Nocturnes by Neil Gaiman
  • Uncle John's Bathroom Reader, the Music edition
  • The Circus by Emma Trevayne (short story) (http://the-cabinet-of-curiosities.blogspot.ca/2013/03/the-circus-by-emma-trevayne.html)
  • Ghost Stories of Canada (compilation) (read a few)
  • Red Shoes and Doll Parts by Claire Legrand (short story (available at: http://the-cabinet-of-curiosities.blogspot.ca/2013/02/red-shoes-and-doll-parts-by-claire.html)
  • In A Fix by Linda Grimes
  • A Calendar of Tales by Neil Gaiman
  • It Came from the Far Side by Gary Larson
  • Boy O'Boy by Brian Doyle
  • Mary Ann Alice by Brian Doyle (so sweet! I wish there was a sequel)
  • The Man Who Loved Flowers by Stephen King (short story) (reread)
  • Celtic Myths and Legends by (forgot) (skimmed)
  • Night Surf by Stephen King (short story) (reread)
  • On This Day I Complete My Thirty-sixth Year by Lord Byron (poem)
  • 11/22/63 by Stephen King (brilliant)
  • When Summer Comes by Brenda Novak
  • All My Life Before Me - the diary of C. S. Lewis (finally! after 15 years!)
  • The Franchise Affair by Josephine Tey
  • The Cake Made Out of Teeth by Claire Legrand (short story) (READ IT! Here: http://the-cabinet-of-curiosities.blogspot.ca/2013/01/the-cake-made-out-of-teeth-by-claire.html)
  • Brat Farrar by Josephine Tey (wonderful!)
  • Real Mermaids Don't Need High Heels by Helene Boudreau (ARC)
  • The Great Explorers (Folio Society edition) (skimmed)
  • The Shaping of Middle-Earth - Book 4 in the History of Middle Earth series by Christopher Tolkien and J R R Tolkien (reread)
  • Medieval Civilisation by Jacques le Goff (skimmed)
  • A Short History of Nearly Everything by Bill Bryson (sooo many questions!)
  • Highland Moonlight by Teresa J. Reasor (skimmed very fast)
  • Not So Funny When It Happened (a travel humour anthology; I read a few of the essays, specifically by Douglas Adams, Dave Barry, Bill Bryson, Anne Lamott, etc.)
  • Over Sea, Under Stone by Susan Cooper (reread)
  • Greenwitch by Susan Cooper (reread)
  • The Magician's Nephew by C. S. Lewis (reread)
  • Emerson (bits and pieces of his essays on his travels through England and Scotland; read aloud to me)
  • The Long Dark Tea Time of the Soul by Douglas Adams
  • Old Man's War by John Scalzi
  • The Cove by Ron Rash
  • see the 2012 list and statistics here http://thegirdleofmelian.blogspot.ca/2012/12/the-hobbit-review-and-year-end-books.html
  • see the 2011 statistics on http://thegirdleofmelian.blogspot.ca/2012/01/books-read-in-2011-statistics-fourth.html
  • see the 2011 list at http://thegirdleofmelian.blogspot.ca/2012/01/books-read-in-2011.html
  • see the 2010 list at http://thegirdleofmelian.blogspot.com/2010/12/books-read-in-2010-listed-here.html
  • see the 2009 list at http://thegirdleofmelian.blogspot.com/2009/12/books-read-in-2009-part-ii.html
  • also in 2009 at http://thegirdleofmelian.blogspot.com/2009/12/books-read-in-2009-part-iv.html
  • see the 2008 list at http://thegirdleofmelian.blogspot.com/2008/12/books-read-in-2008-part-ii.html
  • also in 2008 at http://thegirdleofmelian.blogspot.com/2008/12/books-read-in-2008-part-vi.html
  • also in 2008 at http://thegirdleofmelian.blogspot.com/2008/12/books-read-in-2008-part-iv.html